(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[NZ]SZ[19]KM[8.00]TM[5400]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
GN[2008 Northwest Ing Masters Round 3 - US Go Congress 2008 - Landon Brownell (7d) vs Christopher Kiguchi (6d)]PW[Landon Brownell (7d)]PB[Christopher Kiguchi (6d)]DT[2008-08-06]EV[2008 Northwest Ing Masters]RO[3]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Paul Hardin]C[USGO10 [-\]: Welcome to the 2008 Northwest Ing Masters Tournament.
USGO10 [-\]: 90 minutes per player, 5 byo yomi of 1 minute each.
USGO10 [-\]: Quebec, quel ville?
Quebec [1k\]: Montréal
USGO10 [-\]: beautiful. I lived there for 4.5 years. :-)
USGO10 [-\]: Verdun
USGO10 [-\]: Landon is used to being the younger player, but Christopher makes him seem the old man of the game.
Quebec [1k\]: nice :)
]RE[W+17.00]
;B[qd]
;W[dd]C[USGO10 [-\]: We are here in beautiful Portland Oregon, on the campus of Portland State University.
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;B[pq]
;W[od]C[USGO10 [-\]: Last night's games were interupted by Natural gas smell in the building causing an evacuation.
USGO10 [-\]: Hopefully tonight will be more about Go than utillities.
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;B[ld]C[USGO10 [-\]: Those games not finished last night were completed this afternoon at 13h00 PST.
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;W[of]
;B[qg]
;W[qc]
;B[rc]
;W[pc]
;B[re]
;W[ic]
;B[pj]
;W[lf]
;B[ke]
;W[kf]
;B[ie]C[USGO10 [-\]: Christopher has gone for water.
USGO10 [-\]: He has returned.
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;W[gd]
;B[jf]
;W[kh]
;B[ih]C[USGO10 [-\]: Christopher has been very restless, leaving the board between most turns.
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;W[jj]C[YangX [4d\]: time 4 the players?
USGO10 [-\]: time b- 1:18 w- 1:24
USGO10 [-\]: They still have plenty of time.
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;B[ij]
;W[ik]
;B[hj]
;W[hk]C[USGO10 [-\]: Landon has left the table.
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;B[gj]C[USGO10 [-\]: So has Christopher.
USGO10 [-\]: It is a lovely evening here. It has been a warm and unusually humid day. Not by midwest standards, but humid for the Oregon West.
USGO10 [-\]: Landon returns to the board.
USGO10 [-\]: time is b: 1h 16 w:1h 08
USGO10 [-\]: Christopher returns
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;W[gk]C[USGO10 [-\]: Landon is facing the back of my computer and is teasing Christopher about reading the comments. 
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;B[fj]C[USGO10 [-\]: Christopher denies any interest. :-)
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;W[fk]
;B[dj]C[fly [1k\]: Did they forget the lower left?
ketchup [6k\]: lol
USGO10 [-\]: Time w: 1h 04 b: 1h 13
USGO10 [-\]: I believe that, in psychological terms, this is called left neglect.
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;W[dl]
;B[dq]C[fly [1k\]: lol
USGO10 [-\]: Maybe Christopher is reading the comments. ;-)
fly [1k\]: oops! didn't mean to kibitz!
USGO10 [-\]: The Go Congress is happily over-run with very advance youth players.
USGO10 [-\]: Christopher is in good company with many dan rated 'kids'.
USGO10 [-\]: Landon seems happy to play in byo yomi. This astonishes me, but does not seem to effect his play overly much.
USGO10 [-\]: Christopher has left the board.
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;W[do]C[USGO10 [-\]: Christopher returns.
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;B[fp]
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;W[cq]
;B[cr]
;W[cp]
;B[er]
;W[cj]
;B[ci]
;W[ck]
;B[cf]
;W[df]
;B[cg]
;W[ce]
;B[ji]
;W[ki]
;B[iq]
;W[po]
;B[qm]
;W[qq]C[USGO10 [-\]: Sorry about going off -line there.
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;B[qp]
;W[pp]C[USGO10 [-\]: We are now back up and running.
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;B[qo]
;W[qn]
;B[pn]
;W[rn]
;B[rq]
;W[qr]
;B[ro]
;W[oq]C[USGO10 [-\]: Christopher didn't like that exchange.
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;B[rm]
;W[on]
;B[pm]
;W[kq]C[USGO10 [-\]: time b 1h 00 w 39m
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;B[fc]C[USGO10 [-\]: It seems Christopher wishes to eat up some of Landon's corner space.
gtrer: me too, im hungry
keepgoing [-\]: white will have a hard time finding a good response to this imo.
gtrer: f16?
keepgoing [-\]: then b c17 and corner is gone
USGO10 [-\]: I suspect Landon was planning on using that space for eyes or something.
USGO10 [-\]: We shall see.
USGO10 [-\]: any other guesses?
USGO10 [-\]: how about d17
USGO10 [-\]: (I am but a lowly 16 k)
keepgoing [-\]: e17 is the only move i can think of, but it doesn't look right shape wise nor can i find a good follow up sequence.
gtrer: i still think f16 is the best spot
USGO10 [-\]: Landon's chair keeps getting bashed from behind by the player at board 09. I don't think that is helping his concentration any.
keepgoing [-\]: maybe w d17, f16, and k16
gtrer: f17- nice move by B
keepgoing [-\]: or... w d17, e15, 
keepgoing [-\]: if f16, b can destroy the corner with c17  but e16 looks as if it prevents that. loses the corner but gains back at the top area. 
keepgoing [-\]: according to my readout
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;W[fd]C[USGO10 [-\]: Here we go.
keepgoing [-\]: c17 looks like the proper move imo.
USGO10 [-\]: I don't know. It is out of my league. Glad I am not in either chair.
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;B[cc]C[keepgoing [-\]: =\]
USGO10 [-\]: Good call kg!
keepgoing [-\]: xD
gtrer: i had the first good call
keepgoing [-\]: white's best choice is to give up the corner and keep j17 alive to gain the top.
keepgoing [-\]: imho
gtrer: of course
gtrer: thats what he was planning i think
USGO10 [-\]: Though, he may have ideas about inflicting as much pain on b as possible while doing it.
keepgoing [-\]: so d17 is the simple move but the question is that is it too passive?
gtrer: i think too passive
keepgoing [-\]: same. but i can't find anything else better.
USGO10 [-\]: Landon is definately giving it a good long looik.
USGO10 [-\]: oops... look.
gtrer: b15?
USGO10 [-\]: time w: 28m b: 56m
keepgoing [-\]: or maybe, since j10 doesn't have many points, white could c6 or b15 and destroy black's possible points giving him small life. 
keepgoing [-\]: c16*
USGO10 [-\]: I have to think Landon will want to keep black separated.
gtrer: i like b15, then trying a cut later at d11
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;W[dc]C[USGO10 [-\]: Nope, cut now.
USGO10 [-\]: Or, so it would seem.
keepgoing [-\]: hmm
keepgoing [-\]: d18 first
gtrer: d18 bad i think
gtrer: d18 b17
keepgoing [-\]: well if b goes to b15, then there is a chance that white keeps the corner and top
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;B[gc]C[keepgoing [-\]: so he wants the top.
USGO10 [-\]: Young players are often greedy... I suspect he may want the whole thing. Top and corner and kill.
gtrer: if he does, he will lost everything
gtrer: i think
USGO10 [-\]: We will see. I don't think Landon is going to just hand anything over. ;-)
gtrer: no, hes not
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;W[hc]
;B[db]C[keepgoing [-\]: black... is going to have a hard time with this. 
gtrer: yea
keepgoing [-\]: but unless g17 dies, white will end in gote.
gtrer: gote is fine if he kills all the stones and takes all the territory
keepgoing [-\]: maybe... c18, e18, b17, h18?
gtrer: i like b17
gtrer: but i am not good
USGO10 [-\]: time is b: 53m w: 17m
desde [4k\]: what are the time parameters?
USGO10 [-\]: 5 periods of byo yomi. 1 minute each.
keepgoing [-\]: 1 hour 30 min and 1 minute of 5 periods boyomi
desde [4k\]: tx
deller [3k\]: I'd think that white has to keep B separated w/ something as pedestrian as  E18, B/C18, E17, B15, K5/L5
desde [4k\]: how long has this game been going?
keepgoing [-\]: e18 gives up the corner... but it actually seems to me like the best white has goteen.
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;W[bb]C[keepgoing [-\]: white is really hurting on time.
keepgoing [-\]: desde, it's been almost 2 hours.
desde [4k\]: what is at stake for the players?
keepgoing [-\]: idk
USGO10 [-\]: As I mentioned earlier, he seems quite content to play a log of his games during byo yomi.
USGO10 [-\]: This is the Northwest Ing Masters tournament. I am unsure of the prize money.
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;B[cb]C[desde [4k\]: attention: elsewhere
USGO10 [-\]: But there is some prize money at stake.
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;W[bd]C[keepgoing [-\]: i'm sure everyone who plays gets something atleast though right?
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;B[bc]C[gtrer: maybe a pencil case
USGO10 [-\]: I am not sure.
USGO10 [-\]: board 9 just wrapped up.
USGO10 [-\]: White won.
keepgoing [-\]: white played fast there.
desde [4k\]: maybe a thousand dollars
desde [4k\]: ?
USGO10 [-\]: This will be a relief to Landon, as his chair will no longer be subject to being bounced around.
gtrer: desde, we dont know
gtrer: really
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;W[ec]C[desde [4k\]: a thousand-fifteen?
desde [4k\]: jk
keepgoing [-\]: that might pertain to the reason white has used most of his time, other than him playing in byo yomi frequently.
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;B[ac]
;W[eb]C[USGO10 [-\]: So, it would seem b will live small in the corner.
USGO10 [-\]: If at all.
keepgoing [-\]: so g17 dies... no need to connect at h16 now.
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;B[kj]
;W[jk]C[keepgoing [-\]: wow...
keepgoing [-\]: using for a ko threat?
fly [1k\]: sente!
keepgoing [-\]: or using as many kakashis as possible before playing gote?
gtrer: right
gtrer: sente
USGO10 [-\]: The room is getting louder as more boards finish.
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;B[dg]
;W[bf]
;B[ba]C[keepgoing [-\]: there is sitll some nice aji at p5 area. i wonder if black will use that.
gtrer: yes, he will
keepgoing [-\]: err.. i mean next.
gtrer: oh, maybe not next
deller [3k\]: Is that the meaning of L10>
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;W[hf]C[keepgoing [-\]: that's what I thought.
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;B[jg]
;W[jd]
;B[je]
;W[jh]
;B[hg]
;W[ii]C[deller [3k\]: L10 seems wasted now
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;B[gh]C[keepgoing [-\]: not entirely i don't think. b can still play off it. even now. there is aji if black wants to push at l13 and cut.
keepgoing [-\]: protects for ladder
deller [3k\]: wouldn't L5 or K5 be big now for white?
gtrer: q12 looks good for white also
keepgoing [-\]: bottom looks biggest.
USGO10 [-\]: time b: 45 w: 6
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;W[hp]C[keepgoing [-\]: nice probe.
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;B[hq]
;W[gp]
;B[gq]C[keepgoing [-\]: h3 was too slow... b should've attacked =[
deller [3k\]: with j4?
gtrer: h3 was necessary imo
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;W[fo]
;B[io]
;W[ep]
;B[fq]C[deller [3k\]: now l5
deller [3k\]: L5
USGO10 [-\]: time b: 44 w: 5
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;W[ko]C[deller [3k\]: nice flow to white's moves
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;B[go]C[gtrer: good timing
deller [3k\]: sacrifice at G8 then N6?
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;W[ho]
;B[hn]
;W[gn]
;B[ip]C[gtrer: g8?
deller [3k\]: If w leaves this, then IMO H5 should not have been played..  and he joins, it is gote.. In any case, H5 seems a mistake to me
USGO10 [-\]: time w: 1 b: 43
USGO10 [-\]: That is the last time notation I will give.
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;W[ph]
;B[qh]
;W[pi]
;B[qi]
;W[oj]
;B[ok]
;W[nj]
;B[nk]C[keepgoing [-\]: this game is close.
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;W[mk]
;B[ml]
;W[mj]
;B[mn]
;W[mo]
;B[om]
;W[lc]
;B[mc]C[USGO10 [-\]: b left board.
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;W[kc]C[USGO10 [-\]: b returns
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;B[nd]
;W[ne]
;B[jr]
;W[kr]
;B[ks]
;W[ls]
;B[js]
;W[lq]
;B[go]C[deller [3k\]: Wondered about Q2 -- wouldn;t that have protectedthe cut and prevented S2 from being sente
fly [1k\]: w ahead?
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;W[gm]
;B[bi]
;W[pk]
;B[qj]C[deller [3k\]: My counting suggests B ahead by 4 or 5., depending on S18, B2 and S2
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;W[nc]
;B[md]C[fly [1k\]: after komi?
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;W[ll]
;B[mm]C[keepgoing [-\]: my count is white + 1.5
deller [3k\]: did not know there was komi
keepgoing [-\]: err
keepgoing [-\]: wow..
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;W[jq]
;B[ir]C[keepgoing [-\]: okay white +3
keepgoing [-\]: komi is 8 solid
USGO10 [-\]: 8 komi
keepgoing [-\]: i thought it was 6.5
gtrer: 8, wow
USGO10 [-\]: ing rules
fly [1k\]: but b wins ties!
gtrer: 8 is huge
keepgoing [-\]: w j7 ftw
deller [3k\]: so basically it's 7.5 :-)
fly [1k\]: Ing does not like fractional points...
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;W[nb]C[fly [1k\]: ...unless it's seki.
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;B[ak]
;AE[ak]AB[al]C[keepgoing [-\]: ? ah
keepgoing [-\]: okay
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;W[bl]
;B[ak]
;W[am]
;B[aj]
;W[bk]
;B[bj]
;W[bn]
;B[me]
;W[mf]C[fly [1k\]: I must be confused, I have w by 15
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;B[mb]
;W[kd]
;B[le]
;W[ef]
;B[eg]
;W[da]
;B[ab]C[Violet [2d\]: s2 very big
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;W[rr]C[deller [3k\]: so is b2 and s18, though s2 is absolute sente
keepgoing [-\]: b2 bigger 
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;B[sr]C[Violet [2d\]: b3 better
Violet [2d\]: s2 reverse sente
Violet [2d\]: bigger than b2
Swordfish7 [5d\]: i think black is confident he won
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;W[lb]
;B[na]C[fly [1k\]: but, did he?
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;W[br]
;B[bs]
;W[ar]
;B[kg]
;W[lg]
;B[pg]
;W[og]
;B[pe]
;W[oe]
;B[rb]C[deller [3k\]: H11 is moderate but looks like sente to me
deller [3k\]: sente for W
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;W[no]C[Violet [2d\]: B + 10
keepgoing [-\]: b k7
Violet [2d\]: p18
keepgoing [-\]: or b 13
Violet [2d\]: or g14
Violet [2d\]: biggest now
fly [1k\]: b has 37 on the right?
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;B[rs]C[fly [1k\]: 25 on the rest of the board?
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;W[pr]
;B[gf]
;W[ff]
;B[fg]C[fly [1k\]: w ahs 68+8?
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;W[nn]
;B[nm]C[keepgoing [-\]: w j7 affects this outcome.
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;W[he]
;B[ek]
;W[el]
;B[hi]C[csgo [?\]: b p18 big
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;W[pf]C[jiva [1k\]: how is black winning?
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;B[qf]
;W[bg]
;B[bh]
;W[dk]
;B[ej]C[deller [3k\]: B is not winning by my count
Hylebos [4k\]: SE also says that black is not winning.
Hylebos [4k\]: delier must be right.
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;W[eq]
;B[kl]
;W[lm]
;B[km]C[deller [3k\]: when W is done in left lower center, he will have 24pts. + 18 lower r, plus 16 center + 22 upper  
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;W[kn]
;B[im]
;W[kk]
;B[ln]
;W[lk]
;B[jn]
;W[il]
;B[jm]
;W[oa]
;B[ma]
;W[pb]C[pagapont [1k\]: m19 
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;B[la]
;W[ka]
;B[id]
;W[jb]
;B[lo]
;W[lp]
;B[kp]
;W[jp]
;B[jo]
;W[dr]
;B[ds]
;W[pd]
;B[qe]C[deller [3k\]: d2 was nice -- removes 3 pts in sente
]
;W[qa]
;B[ra]C[Rakeliem [1k\]: I think just 1
beer [1d\]: not needed now though, cause there's C1 if B plays D2
beer [1d\]: but B answer anyway
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;W[dp]
;B[dr]C[deller [3k\]: If B played d2, then D4 is sente for 1 pt, plus w has to throw in at C2 to get the same effect -- 2pts
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;W[qs]C[deller [3k\]: but it is also sente
beer [1d\]: so, good move to leave for byo-yomi
deller [3k\]: he's in byo-yomi
]
;B[sq]C[Rakeliem [1k\]: 2 pts minus the 1 white stone
Rakeliem [1k\]: =1 pt
]
;W[ag]
;B[ad]
;W[ae]
;B[cd]
;W[be]
;B[qb]
;W[pa]C[deller [3k\]: No -- because there is D4 sente for B and then another throw in to be lost
]
;B[hm]C[deller [3k\]: that's 2
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;W[hl]
;B[ah]
;W[ge]
;B[gg]C[Rakeliem [1k\]: just 1 pt gain
]
;W[ji]C[beer [1d\]: it is one
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;B[sn]C[beer [1d\]: only protects E5
beer [1d\]: but 1 in sente, so ok
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;W[mr]C[Rakeliem [1k\]: right
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;B[kp]
;W[ko]
;B[kn]
;W[kp]
;B[ss]
;W[ea]
;B[hd]
;W[bq]
;B[fs]C[takayanagi [4d\]: .....
]
;W[as]C[Kamenoitte [-\]: ?
Swordfish7 [5d\]: ............
plamarre: j13
]
;B[ig]
;W[if]C[siegzorro [8k\]: ............
index [4d\]: ^^
Rakeliem [1k\]: ...
siegzorro [8k\]: wa
Kamenoitte [-\]: Transcriber must have missed a move
siegzorro [8k\]: big mistake
USGO10 [-\]: Counting
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;B[cs]C[beer [1d\]: no, they were probably filling neutral points
USGO10 [-\]: I missed a couple moves in the final sprint. My apogies.
USGO10 [-\]: apologese
Kamenoitte [-\]: Don't worry about it
USGO10 [-\]: Ing rules, they are filling in the board.
Kamenoitte [-\]: p.s. how about apollogeese?
beer [1d\]: to change the order of moves is a nice way to come up to new ideas
USGO10 [-\]: W by 17
Billybones [8k\]: pass stones are stupid
xedover [7k?\]: Ing rules don't use pass stones
NoKnott [-\]: Thank you for scribing, USGo10
USGO10 [-\]: Thanks all for joining us.
Billybones [8k\]: AGA rules do
fly [1k\]: Go Landon!
oren [4k?\]: Billybones, figure out what rules they're playing before commenting
goggle [11k\]: USGO good job!!
deller [3k\]: Thanks USGO10 -- you did a great job
USGO10 [-\]: Have a great evening... or morning, depending on where you are.
deller [3k\]: I have W by 10+ points if I remembered right
deller [3k\]: w/o ko
deller [3k\]: final score?
year2k [2k\]: w+17
deller [3k\]: thx
year2k [2k\]: don't rus SE score, only japanees ruls count corrctly
year2k [2k\]: trust*
year2k [2k\]: you can view online, then chage ruls to japaanesse and see correc result
deller [3k\]: year2k is that the official count or your count?
year2k [2k\]: i did as i said
year2k [2k\]: one point differenc cozz black finished
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